three swedes were arrested todaysuspected of running- -one of the world's biggest websitesfor illegal downloading... good evening. the us governmentthreatened with trade sanctions- -unless file sharing sites, likethe pirate bay, are shut down. illegal downloading has upsetbig organizations in hollywood... the motion picture studios lost the white house forced theswedish government to intervene. we applaud the swedish authorities.it was an important site to stop. the police website was attackedon friday-
-and last nightthe government website. the trial against the founders ofthe pirate bay begins tomorrow. today they met the press. what will happen to the pirate bayif you're found guilty? nothing. what are they going to do about it?they've failed shutting it down once. they're welcometo come and fail again. it's not the pirate baythat's going to court tomorrow. it is about getting uswho are connected to the pirate bay-
-into a political trial. the trial tomorrow is notabout the law, it's about politics. half of all bittorrent trafficis coordinated by the pirate bay. it's extreme amounts of traffic. there are 22-25 million usersat this very moment. a user is definedas one ongoing upload or download. any questions? please. where is fredrik? we don't know.
he was supposed to be herebut he's probably hungover. the first question: where is fredrik? i said that fredrik likes to party. i didn't want to lie and tell themi knew where he was. i tried to get hold of fredrikall day yesterday. i called him a couple of timesand finally he answered. he says: "do you know where i am?" i go: "no.""i'm at arlanda airport." "why is that?""i'm leaving."
what? he said that he had bought a ticket- -to kuala lumpur, malaysia. whata great name for an escape plan. so his plan was to head hometo his girlfriend in laos. live with her and not give a shitabout anything. then suddenly he texted me: "i think it's the security service.the plane is broken." "so where are you now?""on my way back to the hotel." phew!
the interest for the file-sharingtrial in stockholm is massive. you can't seriously thinkthat you can stop our world- -our everyday, our reality. this is so gay. monique wadsted. i also representthe gaming industry. but not music. we have the biggest damage claim. i represent some of thebig film studios in hollywood. warner bros., columbia,20th century fox and mgm.
we're demanding compensationsof $13 million. it might seem insanely high. that should be seen as an indicatorof how big this business is. because this is about5 movies during 6 months. "the pink panther", "syriana",one "harry potter"- -"prison break" and "walk the line". there is no doubt aboutwhat they have done. they have run a commercialbusiness and making a profit. the penalty for this typeof activity is prison.
not fines. fredrik would like to tell hisversion before the prosecutor starts. is that accepted by the prosecutor?you may begin, fredrik neij. i want to start by saying that i havea great interest in computers and it. and especially for internetand networks. and that i... well... ...i've lost my train of thought. you forgot what you were saying.you had a long interest in it. i got involved in the pirate baybecause of my interest in it.
i think it's great funto work with technology. for me, the pirate bayis a technical challenge. to run such a large websiteand such a large tracker technically. play with computers that i couldnever afford to play with on my own. first i want to ask you... the media often describes youas a computer genius. how would you describeyour competence yourself? i do have a certaintechnical competence, yes. what does "a certain" mean,compared to others?
i'm not sure this is the right time,place or medium to post my cv. but i am asking you.please answer politely. i decline to answer that question.it's too much of an estimation. -it's what?-too hard to estimate. -too hard to estimate?- it's a very difficult question. how did you meetfredrik and gottfrid? i don't remember, but i assumeit was in a chat room on the internet. when was the first timeyou met irl? we don't use the expression irl.we say afk. but that's another issue.
i don't remember that either. got to know each other irl?what is that? in real life. we don't like that expression.we say afk - away from keyboard. we think that the internetis for real. this is what our office looks like. is this inside the pirate bay? yes. here are some ofthe people working on it. -are they working on it now?-yes.
where are they based? in sweden? let's see. usa, usa,usa or england, england. finland, i think. the pirate bay. this is the web server.data base and search function. the trackers are over there. this little piece is the tracker.it's the world's biggest tracker. it coordinates 50%of the world's bittorrent traffic. not so many computers,but powerful and well-configured.
half the day has gone.how did it feel in court? so far it's been boring. the prosecutors' strategy is to lieas much as possible in the most boring possible way - -so you fall asleep in court and becomephysically undable to defend yourself. some say that you've made a lot ofmoney by spreading illegal material. we've probably made a lot of money,but the site costs a lot, too. hi. okay, we're coming down. bye. -let's eat.-okay. nothing vegetarian. aren't you working on the sitewe're on trial for while in court?
the pirated depeche mode cdi have in my laptop is even funnier. he'll open in 5 minutes. how the hell can prosecutor roswallmix up megabit and megabyte? generally speaking, for storage you use byte andwhen you measure speed you use bit. it all started with gottfrid's site"america's dumbest soldiers". it was a sitewhere you could rate from 1 to 10. it was american soldierswho died in the first iraq war. then you could ratehow stupid they were- -depending onhow silly their deaths were.
neither the american government noranybody else appreciated the site. i had a spare linewhich i let him use for the site. it was from british telecom. someone at the us state departmentcalled the head of british telecom. he called the head of the operatorin sweden where i worked. so the us government ordered usto remove the site. we fought them for a long timebefore we removed it. we argued that it wasfreedom of speech and parody. after a while we closed it down,when it became too much of a fuss.
two months later gottfrid neededmore bandwidth for the pirate bay. i still had that line available.we used it for the pirate bay. hearing with the defendant petersunde. the prosecution may begin. is it true that amongthe pirate bay computers- -you stored one that you owned? i bought a computerthat i gave to the pirate bureau. what is the pirate bureau? it's an organizationthat discusses the internet. is copyright and file sharingdiscussed on their website?
probably. and they are critical tothe way copyright works today? i'm not sure about that.people have different views. what's your opinion? it's hard to say. i think it's problematic. in what way? the fact that we're here todayshows that there is a problem. first of all, i don't believe-
-that young people todaybelieve that copyright is wrong. i think that's a myth. this kopimi sect- -has been really goodat promoting it. it's so fucking beautiful! we've changed it a bit. so the questionin the newspaper was: "if the pirate bay gets convicted,won't they become martyrs?" monique said:"no, they don't have any followers."
"however, they do have a smallkopimi sect following them". so sweet. that's us! the pirate bureau came intoexistence in the summer of 2003. it was at the same time- -as the record industrysued napster in the us- -and the medical industry sued southafrica for copying hiv-medicine. the name "the pirate bureau"was an easy choice. it wasn't aboutromanticizing pirate stuff- -with eye patches and stuff.we've never liked that.
the anti-piracy bureaualready existed- -we wanted to state that we'rethe active part in this conflict. the anti-piracy bureauis the reactive part. this is henrik pontã©nfrom the anti-piracy bureau. we've been tipped offthat you're selling copies. wait, don't close the door.the police will come with a warrant. they have a built a business basedon other people committing crimes. they have created an industry withbanners and porn ads to earn revenue. it was very profitable.
you're making your situation worse. -i must be allowed to close the door.-come out, then. if you look at studiesabout file sharing- -they don't do it for the fellowshipor to support the ideology. it's because it's simple and free. then there is a small groupof people who do this... ...for reasons they claimto be freedom of speech. our policy has always beenthat the site is an empty page- -that is created by the users.we don't interfere with the content.
freedom of speech? i'd prefer the technologicalviewpoint, a contact service. -for communication?-yes. i don't care about the piracyideology, copyright or politics. i do this because it's great funto run a large site. describe the importance of the pirate bay. it democratizes and creates greatconditions for freedom of speech. what has that to dowith the copyrighted material? the pirate bay makes it possiblefor individuals to share material.
even if it's copyrighted? that's a tricky consequencethat i think we have to discuss. what are you hoping for? i hope we don't get a monitored,restricted internet. that's the biggest issue right now. the copyright industryis digging a grave for the internet. they don't take into account thepublic benefits of a free internet. the problem is that old peopleare running the companies. they know how you made moneybefore and they don't want to change.
they're like the amish. they don't want electricity.they know how to make do without electricity. roger wallis,please come to court room 9. do you think people who downloadmovies will go and buy them as well? -if they would buy the movie?-yes, get it legally. yes, but it depends on the quality.if people want better quality. or if the dvd has special features. you have to increase the value ofthe products in order to sell them. if you want to adjust yourbusiness model to the new world. thank you. i called your instituteand asked these questions-
-because we were unable toput together your curriculum vitae. you've stated in courtthat you're a professor- -but your institute calls youa temporary guest lecturer. -do you know how to use google?-yes. then it's really simpleto find my cv. -we've moved on from that question.-i thought so too. let's move on.thank you, your honor. when you were appointed,were there any competitors? i thought we had moved on,your honor?
-i would like an answer.-please answer the question. i have no idea! i was asked to come and i wentthrough... and we're back on this! ...the standard selection processat the royal institute of technology. all my publications were submitted. three professorsand two international experts- -deemed that i was eligiblefor the appointment. thank you.please just answer the questions. how low can you sink?
they're so afraid ofthe result of your research. they can't attack you there, so theyattack you on a personal level. the royal institute of technology.professor roger wallis. i think it's sick to attackthe academic world like this. it's not the first time. i've heardabout professors in the us- -who have indicated that file sharingcould be positive for the industry- -that have been hunted downwith a whip. it's sad that these american methodsare coming to sweden. would you like any compensationfor participating today?
please send flowers to my wifefor the sleepless night. the court's budgetwill not allow that. it's now two or three dayssince the court appearance. i'm starting to look throughall the blogs around the world. i'm looking here at "torrentfreak": "pirate bay witnessoverwhelmed with flowers." and an awful lotof very kind people who wrote: "at last somebody from the oldergeneration"... i'm an old man. ..."seems to understandthe way we think."
i also make the point herethat as a composer... a song i wrotebought our first house. i support copyright, but onlyif it encourages creativity- -or economic incitementor is an incentive to create. not copyrightas a huge control mechanism- -for people who siton large swathes of rights. a police officer that worked withthe pirate bay investigation- -was employed by a film studioshortly after the investigation. in an email, warner bros. statesthat the information in the media-
-about an alleged conflictof interest is pure speculation. he sold his apartment and boughta house. just after he got the job. i was disappointedwhen you didn't investigate him. you're claiming stuffi don't have a clue about. you should gather materialand submit it to the police. i did, but they dropped the case. well... in that casethere is nothing i can do. his income that yearis higher than his police salary. he has declaredcapital gains of $120 000.
this fucking trial just getsmore and more bizarre every day. i think there's been a power cutat the pirate bay again. -why do you use automatic fuses?-they're attached to the cable cover. when an automatic fuse dies 5 timesyou have to replace it. my laptops break all the time so idon't have time to put stickers on. i spilled gin and tonic in one.i spilled beer in another. and i fell on oneand smashed the screen. -do you have wifi here?-yes, it's called "bambuser". -doesn't it work?-key... bambuser...
-wtf!-stop shouting. i have abstinence! i haven'tbeen on the internet all day. on page 24you have received an email- -that you forwardedto gottfrid and peter sunde. why did you forward it? i didn't. every mailthat contains dmca- -is automatically forwardedto gottfrid and peter. i have a lot of abbreviationsin my filter. -who programmed the abbreviations?-i did.
-why?-because i got a lot of spam. why would you consider an email- -called "copyright claim" as spam? spam are emailsthat i haven't requested. fredrik neij statedthat as soon as he got an email- -from someonerepresenting copyright owners- -it was forwarded to youfrom his computer. is that correct? since no one seems capableto do what we've told them- -i.e. contact the userthat uploaded the material-
-those complaintshave either been ignored- -or been replied toin more or less well-phrased ways. why was it sent to you? i express myself well in writing,as opposed to fredrik. but such a claim didn't resultin anything but scorn and ridicule? the first 100 times it resulted in ussaying: "contact the uploader." -and the following 100 times?-then we lost our patience. the company prq... -was it a web hotel?-yes, it had just been founded.
is it correct that the prosecutionconfiscated 195 servers- -and that 11belonged to the pirate bay? 11 or 13, i don't remember exactly. this is outrageous.this is a true injustice. they're attacking a company that hasnothing to do with the pirate bay. simply because the co-founders wereinvolved with the pirate bay for fun. thanks to the raidprq got a lot of attention. everybody knew that we nevergive any information to the police. our customer databasewas encrypted.
the police seized our servers, butdidn't get any customer information. when the pirate baywas shut down after the raid- -you didn't haveany servers left, right? you were back online after three days.where did you get the servers? we leased servers from a companycalled nforce in holland. it's a co-location company. -how was that received?-with standing ovations. it's a pleasure to announcethat the pirate bay is back online! in your face, hollywood!
-peter!-yes? i'll be there soon! that's how you have treated me. i getletters from your lawyers saying: "swedish law cannot protect you.us law will get you". you put private detectives on us.i've had two outside my house. -i know nothing about that.-but it's your responsibility. it could have been the film industry. -no, it was the music industry.-ok. tpb isn't interestedin music and movies. tpb is a generic medium fordistribution of all types of files.
people shouldn't say that tpb only is aboutspreading illegal movies and music. then your world is this small.it's your loss. instead we could saythat file sharing is good. then we could focus on waysto let artists make money. -we think file sharing is good.-sure, but you sue everyone. no. we don't wantto prosecute anyone. we just want people in swedento start respecting copyright laws. what was the purpose ofthe pirate bay in your opinion? we never spoke about purposes.
if it was about reforming lawsor if it was about- -hatred against some americans.i don't know their purpose. but for fredrik, and it wasfredrik i was dealing with- -the purpose was to make ita big site. the biggest site in the world. from my point of view i liked theidea of the world's biggest site. -how is the pirate bay financed?-how the website is financed? we have ads on the sitethat generate money. a guy called lundstrã¶mhelped you financially, didn't he? yes, we we're sponsoredby a company called rix telecom.
-what was his purpose?-free advertising for his company. carl lundstrã¶m is an interesting guy. he's behindmany right-wing organizations. carl lundstrã¶mhas apparently given money to... answer the question!did he represent these organizations? it really bugs me- -that everybody looks at usas right-wing extremists. it makes me really hurt and angry.my brother is a convicted anarchist. he's been in court,defending his opinions.
we've both been ona neo-nazi organization's hit list. it feels strange to be accused offounding that neo-nazi organization. it's really hard. i can only stand behindmy own politics. when you have some influenceand people listen to you- -you should use that positionto do something good. when did you becomethe pirate bay's spokesperson? well, it's not an official title, buta function that has been given to me. nobody wanted to do that part,but it was important to communicate-
-that the pirate baywas doing something important. since nobody else wanted to,i started doing it. what was peter sunde's roleduring that time? he showed upwhen we needed a public face. since neither i nor fredrikare suited in furnished rooms. so he had nothingto do with running the site. -or any design?-no. -funding?-no. it's aim. you told me it was msn.
what's the fucking difference? they're two different networks.it's like ircnet and efnet. -come on!-it was the museum of modern art... you're so loud!you give me a headache. -i'm half deaf, of course i shout.-you're making me deaf. he wants to spread his misery. -why can't you hear anything?-sex, drugs and industry! sex? i've heard your sex stories.
how much does a banner cost? you are asking me about5-year-old figures again. if you give me a day i canprobably find some examples. but i can't give youany exact figures. does $500 per week soundlike a reasonable amount? that sounds about right.it's within the right range at least. within the right range, you say. was there an agreement about howthe ad revenue was to be divided? -i have no idea.-you don't. fine.
-i'm so fucking tired.-this will be your life for 5 years. are you kafka or what? it feels like "the trial"all over again. i might wake up as gregor samsaand can't go to work- -because i've turned into a beetle. when do you go back to cambodia? -as soon as this shit is over.-quiet. it's a secret. what are your thoughtsin general about the case? it will be nice when it's over.tomorrow it's just half the day.
and after the closing argumentswe're finished. how much moneyare they looking for? they want around20 million euro in damages. but good luck finding that money.i don't have that kind of money. if they knew that our entire officeis a chat room on irc- -they wouldn't believe it. and they don't because they've beenasking questions about companies. yeah, we tried to get organized,but we failed every single time. i don't think they can grasp the ideaof an organization without a boss.
people have no idea how small we are.we're just a couple of guys in a chat room. i've argued that the yearlyprofit is at least $170,000. and that's the minimum. gottfrid svartholm warg stated- -that the price for an ad on tpbwas $500 per week. the report fromthe forensic laboratory- -states thatat the time of the raid- - there were 64 unique ads. a rough estimate...
$500 times 64- - gives us $34 000 per week. that amount times 52 weeks,i.e. weeks per year- -makes a yearlyrevenue of $ 1700 000. thus the pirate bay isn't idealistic. it's pure commercial business. here we go. 4 times 52. $110 000. that's a massive sum.we never got that kind of money back then. if you calculate with the rightnumber of ads - 4 instead of 64-
-you get a much morerealistic figure. but he has miscalculatedso many things. did roswall mean 64 different ads,or 4 ads times a bunch of pages? -yes.-what the hell! is he insane? he's right behind you. we're thinking of doing abambuser press conference. hell no!! no! no!they keep calling us organized. they don't understandwhat a joke that is. it's disorganized crime.
you mean for all of you? i thinkyou are going to get convicted. take a picture of monique.it's her copyright. -i'm leaving.-bye bye. do you need a hand? this is the only helpyou'll ever get from me. -that's so kind.-i am kind. and i still have my soul, too. here's fredrik,let's get out of here. let's calculatehow much money we have earned.
let's start withan exponential function. -you can add times 64.-right. and for n we choosea random number. between 10 and 5 200.do you write code in swedish? now take the square rootto see what monique's soul costs. the answer? do it mathematically correct. come on, not pi. he's mad.go check that it's correct.
okay. i'll give you some cred. it's in my muscle memory. i can'tremember it writing with a pen. i have to emulate a keyboard. so what are you doingat 11.00 on the 17th of april? queuing outside the court? -11 am means 5 pm local time.-i was thinking the same thing. gottfrid, can you sit over here? i'm not taking part in any fuckingpress conference. i'm sick of it! -it's in english.-i'm so fucking tired of cameras.
-and fucking bullshit!-sit here anyway. it's the last time. nein. hi everybody. i'm here and together with mei have some of the guys from tpb. take your time and asksome questions to the guys- -and see what they have to say. -i didn't know we were that boring.-you are that boring. because you're not part of this.film him! anakata!
today the court will decide ifthe men behind the pirate bay- -are guilty ofcopyright infringement. follow the verdict live on svt.sefrom 11.00. no, but... sure, but don't worry. because i'm not worried myself.but i'll talk to you later. bye. dad was more nervous than i am. the verdict is in for the piratebay trial. it's 11 o'clock. all four defendants are sentencedto one year in prison. the offense is called "assistingcopyright infringement".
- so one year imprisonment...-this is so insane! this must be a joke. take it easy, mom.nothing will happen. this is going to take 5 years.take it easy. the district court is ruled bypoliticians. we call it the dice court. just stay calm. but i can't talk right now. i haveto watch the press conference. okay. take care. the district court has announcedthe verdict in the pirate bay trial.
we have estimated the damagesto approximately $4,5 million. fuck you. he's going to geta good job in hollywood after this. this is so insane! the hottest set up ever. i don't have time right now,i have to decline. no, i'm the only one in sweden. theothers are in the desert or the jungle. no, they are not goingto send us to jail whatsoever. the way it works in swedenis that they can't... ...do anything about the casebefore we can't appeal anymore.
-what are we going to call this?-lol? for the lulz. if this was a moviethis is where the heroes- -encounter their first problem. karate kid got bullied in thebeginning and got beaten up. and we've just been beaten up. thanks, hollywood, for teachingus that the good guys win in the end. in total they wanted around100 million swedish crowns, right? and they got 30 million.
but they could have gotten 1 billion,it doesn't matter because... we can't pay and we wouldn't pay. this verdict makes me upsetto the bone. there is no chance in hellthis verdict will hold in an appeal. i will cross the creek, the streamand the atlantic for a redress. it means a lotto have taken a stand. it's important to re-establish swedenas a state governed by law. the judge in the pirate bay trialis accused of bias. people are demanding a retrial.
last night i learned aboutthe news that blew up today. the judge in the pirate bay trial- -is a member of organizations thatare working with copyright issues. organizations that the attorneysfrom the plaintiff's are part of. i was horrified and shockedto learn about this. -why didn't you inform the court?-good question. i didn't. yes, i know how he thought. "my friends will be happyif i rule in their favor." it's ridiculous. i didn't thinkthe legal system was that bad.
-was it a correct decision?-that's for others to decide. it's tomas, the judge.he's the judge in the district court. he's a member of theswedish association for copyright. that's the whole point. he sits in the board for the swedishassociation for industrial rights. these two organizationshave a common publication, nir. and all the lawyersthat assist the prosecution: peter danowsky, henrik pontã©nand monique wadsted. they're all membersof the same organization.
so he looks very mixed upin these people's world. from a graphical point of viewit's very obvious. i can't say if he was biased- -but just the fact that hewithheld this information- -makes him unsuitableas a judge in this case. the verdict is questionable, since hemight be perceived as being biased. -here's my pirate copy.-i have a parasite. -is this you? fredrik?-yes. -what's your job?- it. internet.
because of our traditionand the regulations of the village- -you have to pay for the engagement. how much would you liketo pay for the engagement? $6,000? if you leave her you have to paythe bride dowry times two. that means $12,000. agreed? please write your name and sign it. do you like it? good. -yummy! yummy!-hello!
if it didn't cost me $12,000i would divorce you. it's always this way with thepirate bay. chaos and cheating. last monday a verdict camefrom the stockholm district court- -where judge norstrã¶m is chairman. black internet, the ispfor pirate bay's isp must quit- -and if they continue togive access to the pirate bay- -they will be fined $75 000 per day. then all hell broke loose. so they're trying legal tricksand we're trying technical tricks.
it's like a constant tactical gamewith different weapons. when we realized thatthe pirate bay was down- -we looked around,because we always have backups. then i realized that the pirate partyhad registered their own isp. the pirate party works for reformedcopyright laws, an open internet- -and free access to culture. i realized that if we're hostedby the pirate party- -it means that if someone closes themdown, they're closing down the party. that means closing down a partythat represents sweden in the eu.
that would be political censorshipon the highest level. if you're hosted by the pirate partyyou get political protection. you could say that you getdiplomatic immunity. after days of speculation "rapport"can now reveal that the pirate party- -takes over the responsibility forthe security of wikileaks' servers. wikileaks or the pirate party copiedwhat they had done with tpb. giving wikileaks protectionby a political party- -by sharingthe same internet connection. every leak on wikileaks has been released ontpb since there is no censorship there.
gottfrid is good at tech stuffand encryption- -and he's worked onmany important projects. like "collateral murder"that made wikileaks famous. "look at those dead bastards" julian has a lot of respectfor gottfrid. i remember when gottfrid said:"there's a new customer, wikileaks." "they need helpbecause they're under attack." the first time i got in contactwas when we had to pay a bill. because no one, andthat was a constant problem...
no one rememberedthe stupid customer number. and no one wanted to sayanything on the phone. in 2008 i flew to swedento pay the bill in cash. gottfrid always said he didn'twant money from wikileaks. i flew there and paid forone year and a bit in advance. julian was with me.he flew in as well. and we arranged this meetingwith gottfrid to hand over the money. and it was one of theweirdest incidents in my life. he came to the hotel and he hadsomeone waiting outside in a car.
and they had an agreement thatgottfrid would be near a window. so he stood there in this lobby. with his long hair,looking completely... -strange! fucked up.-and he behaved really strange. and every 30 seconds he turned tosee if the guy in the car was there. and julian and i were standingthere and we basically thought- -that we would go hang outor something. so we asked him if hewanted to come up to the room. and he was like: "no, no, i can't."he was turning around.
never heard that before. and then handing over some cashand the guy jumped in the car- -and they drove offand we felt like... that was meeting prq for us. a warm welcome to peter sunde. first question: are you a killerthat ruined the whole industry? i would love to take credit for it but i can't.sorry. they did it themselves. -there is a law case now with you.-just one? i don't know how many butsome discussions going around.
you had a new idea: flattr. it comes from the discussionswe had during the pirate bay. there were two sides. one side saidthere is no problem with downloading. the other side said they're notmaking any money from the internet. -and there was nothing happening.-can you explain how flattr works? you as a user sign upand you put money into an account. you decide how muchyou want to spend per month. then you find flattr buttons. theylook like the facebook like buttons. if you click it we remember ituntil the end of the month.
at the end of the monthwe count your clicks- -and we share your money equallyamongst them. -where is the money going?-it's going to the creators. that's the whole concept. the trial in the court of appealagainst the pirate bay began today. let's shake hands today again. -it's a sick team, right?-i'm soaking wet. to rent a car costs $400 per week. i bought that one for $600.i'll use it for 6 weeks.
-is it legal?-sure. i've even paid the taxes. i don't really care about parkingtickets - i have a $7 million debt. the court of appeal, please. -is gottfrid coming?-i highly doubt that. -unless he teleports himself.-okay. he wrote this morning that he's hospitalizedwith a parasite infection in cambodia. so yes, it's highly unlikelythat he'll come. -do you have any other trials?-the civil cases. -the penalty fine stuff.-how many are they?
one in italy, one in holland... one in denmark that we're notsummoned to, and one in norway. kuwait, ireland. anything else? what is the most important? i believe it's very important to lookat how our society ought to be. not just rule so that big companiescan make a bigger profit. how does this feel? 8 days to go. it's boringthat we're just watching video. you wanted to speak for yourselfbut weren't allowed to, right?
i think the new court systemis really bad. you can't introduce new material.we don't even need to be in court. they could just take the old materialand rule from that. hey, thanks for coming! -how are you?-i'm really sick. then why the hellare you shaking my hand? -he's also sick.-what's wrong with you? i have a cold and an eye infection.i didn't sleep at all last night. i just got an smsfrom gottfrid's mother.
she wrote that he is stillin cambodia. she said that he is really ill. he's had problems before as well. when you look at him, healthisn't the first thing you think of. -what are you working with today?-i run websites. in cambodia or thailand? with the internet you can work anywhereas long as you have internet access. state prosecutor roswall accusedthe defendants of contempt- -since they have continuedto run the site after the verdict.
he wants the one year imprisonmentfor all four to be affirmed. the tunnel computer is located inpionen with the pirate party. pionen is a show-off in apple style. the tunnel computer is the entrancefrom the internet to the pirate bay. then everything happensin the background somewhere. on the real servers,that are hidden. right now we're on our wayto the real mountain. that's an expensive table. -6 cores?-12 cores.
4 cpu's with 12 cores. here. the pirate bay.and that's all. we run an efficient ship. where are the peoplewho run the pirate bay based now? i don't know. ask the pirate party,they are hosting the bandwidth. but it has changed owners afterwe passed it on, too. once or twice. we miss the support from thepirate party in the district court. -with buses and stuff.-the buses were the pirate bureau. was it the pirate bureau?with trumpets and flags and stuff.
it feels like theyhave forgotten about us. the pirate movement's ideato fight for free file sharing- -just isn't accepted anymore. it was just a little fad.i never thought it would survive. -i don't want them.-you don't have to sign them. but by law you have been served. what does that mean? -i can't force you to sign.-no, you can't. -but you've been served.-who are you?
-i'm the subpoena server.-can i see your id? can i see the last 4 digits, please? -you should quit smoking.-do i smell? this is stressful for me, too. -does it feel bad to do this?-kind of. -but they pay you well?-no. -why do you do it?-it's my job. do you have kids? then iunderstand, but get a better job. i've been thinking about that.
-is this from danowsky?-i don't know what it's about. -so you don't know where it's from?-holland. -okay. good luck.-thanks. likewise. -he's got a great job.-i feel sorry for him. i don't. he's like a meter maid. did you see the debate on tv? a young girl said: "this is not aboutyoung people wanting to commit crimes." "they just havea different consumption pattern." "they just want to consumemovies and records that way."
"it's horrible to hunt them.the market must adjust instead." life is coolerthan the internet. that's probably a reallyradical opinion around here. after the cold warthey had to invent enemies- -that you couldn't even kill. terror, piracy and drugs. it's obvious that prqhas had customers- -that some say are connected toterror, piracy and drugs. that can't be denied.
i guess all three of them at thesame time for one single customer. you mean gottfrid svartholm warg! he's a pirate and a junkie. and when you talk to himyou get a little scared. you could say he's a taliban. i'm back from cambodia.i've been there for a month. i've been really worriedabout gottfrid's health. i don't want to talktoo much about... he hasn't been using stuffconstantly.
it's been every now and then.when he has a deadline. he gets stressed by his workwhen something has to be done. so then he doesa whole lot of drugs. i just couldn't stand by and watch. i've seen friends strugglewith drugs before. and it's... what can i say?it's tough. it's not something you wantto see a friend go through. -what are we gonna do?-crush racism! -when?-now!
-when, when, when?-now, now, now! brokep/peter is a fuckingvegetarian leftist bitch ass bastard. but he's got balls becausehe's in the pirate bay? -he's giving all the interviews.-he's still a bitch. he does it because of ideologicalpussy-inflicted instincts. he needs to look himself in the assand take his own life in his hands. if he's had a beer or two, he becomesthe most annoying person on earth. the problem is he takes acouple of beers at least everyday. isn't there some connectionto right-wing parties in sweden?
carl lundstrã¶m,one of the co-defendants- -was a right-wing extremist before. he founded a lot of crap.but in the end- -he married a jewish girl.he has four kids. to call him a right-wing extremistwas correct 10-20 years ago. now i wouldn't say that. if carl lundstrã¶mis xenophobic then so am i. every time i've been beaten orrobbed, it's been by immigrants. and i don't mean seventh-generationfinnish immigrants.
i mean thesedirty fucking immigrants. what can i say. he's stupidwhen it comes to things like that. he has never thought for himself.he just says what his parents say. he's an alcoholic racist asshole. -but i still love him.-and you know what? all the emails in the pirate baytrial comes from anakata. anakata the don't-know-howto-fucking-encrypt-his-computer! even peter and i encryptedour emails. but gottfrid didn't! gottfrid is the stupidest personin the entire history of it.
yeah, the pirate bay is really tight! i have no batteries left. i'm surprised there are no cameras. -yes, today is the last day.-finally! i'm going home. -you can throw them away.-you've been served anyway. is this gonna come on youtube? -you can throw them away.-you do it. -you can't force me to take them.-you've been served. it was you who dropped the papers.
come on! i want to sleep. sabaidee! when i get acquitted tomorrowi'm going to sue them for millions. billions! at least! we can't be worse than they are with fantasynumbers. i landed in sweden on saturday. i'm helping out with the new leaksproject's servers in the server hall. everybody has left wikileaksexcept for julian and maybe anakata. because he's likein love with julian.
fuck! blink if you're gonnaturn, you fucking anus! goddamnit! -how are you?-i'm fine. nice to see you again.you're good? do these people know what'shappening in your life today? -no.-not even your wife? yes. i don't know. for fredrik it's easy.he can just avoid going home. what do you mean? i don't haveany plans on going home.
i really don't know.i don't have a clue. i'm hesitating. but i won'taccept a conviction. i can serve a prison sentence.but why do it if i don't have to? there's really no reasonfor you to do that. look around. why shouldn't istay here for 5 years? you can't go to jail for somethingyou haven't done. political exile is what it's about. i don't want to become a martyr. but i don't think i'll be convicted.
knock on wood... but we'll see. cheers! beer man! are you going to get drunkfrom happiness or sadness? can i tell you in 12 minutes? hey! the internet just synched up!i think it's an omen. stop lagging! "if tpb founders are acquitted, it'sa victory for internet freedom." check out my eye infection!
"the pirate gottfrid svartholm warghanded in a medical statement." gottfrid svartholm was "sick". "...was shortened but the damageswere raised." we're convicted. we're convicted. domstol.se. it's spam. copy the link.the link underneath! "the court of appeal considers thedefendants' contribution proven." "fredrik neij is sentencedto 10 months, peter sunde 8"- -"and carl lundstrã¶m to 4 months." -what about gottfrid?-he's not in the case.
right. the damages went upfrom $4,5 million to $6,6 million. well... we lost.fucking idiots. i'm calling my mom. hi. i just wanted to say that theygave us a shorter sentence. but we're appealing.8 months instead of one year. i just wanted to call andtell you that. so don't be worried. i have 59 pages i have to read. okay, great. take care.
fucking idiots. -the internet just died!-goddamnit! yes, it did. fucking windows crap! the statute of limitation is 5 years. they can't issue an internationalwarrant of arrest. i can sit here and jerk offfor 5 years. and i will. are you gonna masturbatefor 5 years? in one go? i'll do it on and off. this means thatthe internet is criminalized.
they label the internet as a place wherecrimes are committed. "close it down." we're not even on bbc or cnn yet!that irritates me! come on! i guess we have to live with the factthat we're not important anymore. -the bay!-when does the internet come back? maybe in 2 hours. if we're lucky. ladies and gentlemen, dear friends. we are meeting today to discuss- -one of the hot issues right nowin the european parliament. thank you very much for having me.it's very brave to invite me here.
i've been a pain in the ass for thecopyright industry for a long time. i'm one of the spokespersonsfor the pirate bay. tpb is the largest filesharing system in the world. it's ten times larger than napsterat it's peak, and it's still growing.
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